Visma · Holded Technologies
The Operational Foundations
Behind Real Impact
Constantinos Yenis
VP of Revenue Operations
Holded Technologies SL
2025
destroy
Two Ways to Use AI
AI-assisted
Improve the existing workflow.
Add a copilot. Add a chatbot.
Same stack. Faster.
Thinking outside the box.
AI-native
Redesign the workflow from first principles.
Question the stack itself.
Fewer tools. More control.
Thinking like there is no box.
Both are valid. But the bigger unlock comes from rethinking, not just improving.
A Real Example
AI-assisted
AI-native
Claude Code
Same outcome. Fundamentally different operating model.
The Central Idea
24
PRs reviewed(was 8)
135
Chats resolved(was 45)
9
Demos booked(was 3)
36
Reports generated(was 12)
75
Leads enriched(was 25)
The question is: what is your multiplier?
The Leverage Question
Better questions lead to better prompts.
Better prompts lead to better outcomes.
AI rewards the people who ask more, test more, and iterate faster.
Curiosity is the new seniority.
Plot Twist
Senior · struggles with AI
Junior · AI-fluent
Same people. Same company.
Completely different outcomes.
> “I would like to multiply my outcomes with AI as a Your Title working in Your Team at Your Company. Help me be world-class at my job and be relevant in 2027.”
ChatGPT · Claude · Gemini · Perplexity
Claude
PerplexityThen actually read what it says.
Cool demos are not the same as
repeatable business impact.
Alpha
Experimentation. Trying things. Learning.
Beta
Controlled pilot. Measured. Owned.
Live
Production. Trusted. Accountable.
“Be ready for something before you need it.”
The Real Problem
Broken process in → broken output out
Poor context → hallucinations
Disconnected systems
Unclear ownership
No feedback loop
The Title of This Talk
Model
The reasoner
Powerful out of the box.
Blind without a briefing.
Context
The briefing
What you give it right now:
data, notes, docs, history.
Memory
The compound
What it learns over time.
This is where AI compounds.
Context in Practice
Obsidian vault as shared memory. Two tools, one brain.

Claude Code
The operator. Interactive, in the loop.
Conversations, decisions, creative work.

OpenClaw
The cron job. Async, automated.
Sweeps, alerts, vault hygiene.
Obsidian
Claude Code
OpenClawThe vault is the shared brain. Claude Code does the thinking. OpenClaw does the housekeeping.
The Context Port
One standard way for Claude to plug into the systems where work already happens. CRM in HubSpot. Tickets in Intercom. Product signals in Amplitude.
HubSpotCRM context
Product analytics
Model Context Protocol
MCP
Claude plugs in once
IntercomTickets and conversations
ClaudeAI reasoning engine
Same conversation. Same model. But now it can read, search, and act inside real business systems instead of guessing from a blank chat window.
Claude demo next
MCP in Practice
HubSpot
Salesforce
Clay
Intercom
ClaudeBefore a call
▎ Pull up everything on Acme Corp: last 3 activities, deal stage, decision maker, and any open support tickets
Claude reads CRM plus Intercom via MCP and returns a five-second briefing. No tab-switching. No timeline archaeology.
After a call
▎ Log this: spoke with Maria, CFO. They are evaluating Q3. Budget approved, need security review. Move to stage 3 and set a follow-up for April 10th
Claude writes back via MCP: updates the deal, adds the note, creates the task. The rep never opens HubSpot.
Enrichment + outbound
▎ Find 20 companies in DACH, 50-200 employees, using Intercom. Draft a personalised first touch for the top 5 based on their latest funding round
Claude queries enrichment tools, drafts outreach, and keeps it in one workflow instead of five disconnected ones.
Pipeline review
▎ Show me all deals stuck in stage 2 for more than 14 days with no activity in the last week
Claude returns the table. Manager replies: send the owners a nudge in Slack. Done through MCP.
Before
CRM-centric
After
AI + MCP
Rep opens 5 tabs
Rep opens Claude
Manually logs notes
Dictates, Claude writes to CRM
Searches CRM for context
Asks Claude, gets a briefing
Manager builds reports in dashboards
Asks Claude, gets answers
Data entry = compliance burden
Data entry = byproduct of conversation
What actually changes
The CRM becomes the database, not the interface. Reps stop typing into forms after the fact. Data gets captured in context, while the conversation is still alive.
AI Account Executive in action
HubSpot
Intercom
ClaudeReal projects. Copy the prompt. Adapt to your stack.
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Scalable customer support across chat, voice, and forms
~80%
of support interactions
handled by AI.
91%
CSAT maintained
~€2M
Annual savings
6
Channels covered
Workflow
Customer asks on chat, voice, or form
AI classifies intent and sentiment
Pulls context from KB or CRM
Answers, routes, or escalates
Logs transcript and feeds QA loop
Intercom Fin AI · ElevenLabs Voice · n8n · Help Center RAG
> “Help me build this for my company: an omnichannel support AI agent that handles inbound messages from Intercom. Classify intent, draft responses from a KB, pull CRM context from HubSpot, escalate complex issues, and offer ElevenLabs voice handoff for premium accounts. Include a QA feedback loop.”
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Every DSAT reviewed by AI in real time \u2014 coaching delivered to Slack
Intercom
n8n
SlackWorkflow
DSAT rating triggers Intercom webhook
n8n validates, deduplicates, enriches data
Routes by rating: bot DSAT vs human DSAT
AI reads full conversation, scores agent
Coaching + better approach posted to Slack
All results logged to Google Sheets
What the AI Outputs
Summary of what happened
What the agent did well
Communication / Empathy / Efficiency scores
Specific coaching points
Better approach with exact suggested wording
Training recommendations + pattern risk flag
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Automated prospecting from lead to booked meeting
Clay Enrich
Firmographic data
Claude Qualify
AI lead scoring
AI Outreach
Personalized sequences
ChiliPiper Route
Auto-book meetings
HubSpot Log
CRM sync
Clay · Claude Code · n8n · ChiliPiper · HubSpot
> “Help me build this for my company: an AI SDR workflow using n8n for orchestration. When a new lead enters Salesforce, auto-enrich with firmographic data, use AI to score and generate personalized outreach, adjust messaging based on engagement signals, and auto-book qualified leads via Chili Piper.”
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Migrate data from previous accounting software into Holded
Claude Code
Holded MCPWorkflow
Team defines migration task with source export (Excel) and Holded schema
AI interprets fields, edge cases, and mapping logic via Holded MCP
Suggests field mappings and validation checks automatically
Human validates final decisions and approves the migration
Executes migration with error logging and rollback capability
Why It Works
Team of 10 doing 2-3 migrations per day
AI handles field mapping — humans validate decisions
Custom Holded MCP connects Claude directly to the platform
> “Help me build this for my company: an AI migration coworker that helps teams migrate data from previous accounting or invoicing software into a new system. Accept source and target schemas, interpret field mappings, flag edge cases, suggest validation checks, let the human approve before execution, and log errors with rollback. Build it as an MCP server so it connects directly to the target platform.”
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From broken routing to the right calendar in real time
Claude Code
Clay
n8n
Chili Piper
HubSpotThe Problem
High inbound volume, no proper qualification
Freelancers routed to live demos, wasting AE time
Qualified leads waiting 1u20132 weeks for availability
Partners lost in generic routing
No fallback when demo slots are full
The New Flow
Lead fills form → Clay enriches in real time
Qualification score determines routing path
High-qualified → live demo via Chili Piper
Lower-qualified → next webinar on Livestorm
No availability? Automatic webinar fallback
Partners → routed to partnership team directly
Now testing: AI Demo Agent— an AI that runs the first product demo live. I'll show you right after this.
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Turn every sales call into structured, actionable data
Workflow
Call transcribed in Gong
Webhook triggers n8n automation
AI agent extracts structured insights
Results stored in tables and CRM
Feeds dashboards, coaching, and strategy
What AI Extracts
Objections raised by the buyer
Key selling points that landed
Buyer persona and decision stage
Next steps and commitments made
Competitive mentions
Gong · n8n · AI Agent · HubSpot / Airtable
> “Build an AI call intelligence pipeline. When a call is transcribed in Gong, send it via webhook to n8n. An AI agent extracts objections, key selling points, buyer persona, decision stage, next steps, and competitive mentions. Store structured output in tables and feed dashboards for coaching and strategy.”
And More We Shipped
mdOS & Openclaw
Too many models, no routing → Right LLM for the right task
OpenClawNew Website
Webflow + 5 vendor dependencies → One Claude Code build
Claude CodeAI Account Executive
Static demo scripts → Live AI sales conversations
HubSpot
IntercomThe Pattern
AI multiplies what is already there
Curiosity creates leverage
Operations make it repeatable
Small wins compound fast
The winners will not be the teams with the most AI tools.
They will be the teams that build the best multiplier.
Thank You
8 years at Holded · Visma
Leaving as an employee this month.
Continuing as external consultant.
WhatsApp: +34 600 204 608
“Be ready for something before you need it.”
Speaker Notes
I'm not here to sell you on AI. You've already heard that pitch. I'm here to talk about what actually happens after you decide to use it — the operational reality, the wins, the failures, and the multiplier effect that separates teams that talk about AI from teams that ship with it.